Black days in the UK

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Black days in the UK

Post by NewYodeller » Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:18 am

:( :( Well, as you will know the UK now has a clown for Prime Minster, one who has lied his way into the job. Boris Johnson has a history of being sacked several times for writing his lies in newspapers.
For the Conservative party the election was run on the one issue of Brexit, for the rest it was run on trying to undo the damage the Conservatives have done to the country over the last 10 years. Ignorance, stupidity and self-interest won.The Conservative strategy for the election was to ensure Johnson avoided as many opportunities to be asked questions as possible - as he finds having to remember trivialities such as what is in his manifesto or what is in his Brexit deal too difficult, and to trash any and everyone in any other political party especially by using twitter and Facebook, including liberal use of distractions and lies.
At the end of the month the real work will begin to sort out how Brexit will work - trade agreements ect. Johnson claims this will be done within 2020, everyone else knows this is untrue.
Many pensioner UK citizens in Austria will have healthcare costs and state pension inflation proofing high on their worry list. One Conservative MP, Sir Roger Gale, also has it high on his priorities (perhaps because he has a house in France?), perhaps he is hoping for his retirement to be there? With any luck reciprocal agreements will be made so the UK government will increase expat's UK state pensions in line with any increases made in the UK. Reciprocal healthcare arrangements, similar, I hope, to the current ones are also on the agenda - of course Austria had this sorted quite a time ago but the UK insist they can not enter any negotiations until after Brexit (ie end of the month). Well at least I have seen a letter from the former Chancellor claiming that these negotiations will be on-going.
For me this is all gloomy - I moved back to the UK for financial reasons 2 years ago but dearly want to move back to Austria. As a pensioner without these arrangements being as they are now I doubt this will happen. Not only that but I suppose my "just about get along" level of German will have to be increased to B2 level.
So I am not happy, I am stuck in the UK - with the prospect of having the worse government ever and cant get out until I would be able to gain healthcare paid for by the UK and not find my pension diminishes in buying power each year.



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Re: Black days in the UK

Post by morgenhund » Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:27 am

Friday was definitely a dark day. I still feel the pain despite naturalisation - because it isn't just about me and my family, it's about everyone who exercised their option to move to Austria for business, romance or retirement. The uncertainty is definitely playing heavily on people's minds.
Vienna is like an Ikea sofa - you know you should upgrade, but why bother when it is this comfortable.

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Post by curmudgeon » Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:36 pm

I feel for the OP's predicament. I am now resigned to the fact that some form of Brexit will happen and life here is going to get more difficult. Been here 28 years, and no intention of leaving, although possibly with an Austrian spouse and paid in to the system here, I might be OK.

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Post by chasmyth » Sun Dec 29, 2019 4:05 pm

Was amazed by the margin. Some relatives seem to just be glad that Brexit might be getting done at last, although they still seem clueless about its consequences.

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Re: Black days in the UK

Post by London_townboy » Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:58 am

Is there anything we have to do in preparation for Brexit that has been announced recently?

I've done everything the Embassy advised last year, but don't know if there is new information this year that I haven't heard about.

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Re: Black days in the UK

Post by morgenhund » Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:18 am

London_townboy wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:58 am
Is there anything we have to do in preparation for Brexit that has been announced recently?

I've done everything the Embassy advised last year, but don't know if there is new information this year that I haven't heard about.
The Bundeskanzleramt website (Federal Chancellery) is still showing a lot of info about "No Deal", although the WA going through parliament has taken no deal off the table from the UK parliament side, although it has to still clear the European Parliament, although I think they are resigned to the UK wishing to leave so unless a Member State wants to put a spanner in the works, it should be cleared by the end of the month.

https://www.bundeskanzleramt.gv.at/en/t ... rexit.html has the latest information in English on the BKA / Federal Chancellery website.
Vienna is like an Ikea sofa - you know you should upgrade, but why bother when it is this comfortable.

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